It's already mid-late November and the apples are still good : at least the late varieties. My Wolf River tree is unbelievable this year- it's my favorite for making pies- I plan to make two tonight. I just use a regular recipe but work the dough very little, also I add more shortning than called for. My other favorite late apple is Northern Spy- I've harvested pails and pails of them already and there are alot more. We still haven't had a severe enough frost to ruin them.